I had the 'old" La Sportiva approach shows for like 15 years. I resoled them like 4 or 5 times. I musta gone thru 10 pairs of laces. These are not those. They will never be that good again. The same size of these shoes were too small. After it was too late to return them, I bought the next size up and threw these in the trash (actually donated them to the homeless). But once you stumble thru getting the right size, there is only one more obstacle to overcome. The left shoe's laces broke the 3rd time I tied the shoe. The right's about the 8th time. My friend said same thing happened to him. So just re-lace them right off the bat. Once you get the size right and real laces, they are a good-ish approach shoe.I wear a B width shoe and appreciate that some La Sportiva products run narrow, but this shoe was too narrow at the toe bed to fit comfortably on my foot. If you have trouble getting a good narrow fit at the toe, this could be the shoe for you.These shoes have excellent support and high quality materials. They fit snug and feel like they would work well for hiking and scrambling. I would rate them a 5 but the tow box was extremely narrow and I couldn't keep them on for more than 30 min without becoming painful to wear. I did not have this issue with the Arc'Teryx FL or Black Diamond Session, but I did find the La Sportiva TX Guide to have the best support and footbed.Amazing shoes, wrong size, so I sent them back to get more. Very impressed by the construction and the details. I look forward to the next pair!I wear several types of Sportiva shoes. These are WAY narrower than any other I've tried.Lasted about 10 pitches before the right shoe started delaminating at the toe and separately at the forefoot instep. Fits quite different to the tx4s - narrow forefoot which didnt fit me as well. Fairly soft shoe, climbs well. At about $20 per pitch not great value.